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Even after all these years, President Barack Obama still gives Chris Matthews that special tingle.

The liberal MSNBC host, who (in)famously said during the 2008 presidential primary that Obama’s speeches sent a “thrill going up my leg,” admits that he occasionally still gets that peculiar sensation.

“Everybody makes fun of me for the ‘thrill up the leg,’” Matthews told The New Yorker magazine for a profile on the state of MSNBC. “I’ve got to tell you something: it still works, once in a while — when [Obama] talks about our country, when he talks about race.”