Outgoing New York Police Commissioner Ray Kelly insisted Monday controversial stop-and-frisk policies “can never be eliminated” now as a crime-fighting measure, despite Mayor-elect Bill de Blasio’s questioning of the program.

“It will not be eliminated, I can assure you. So, it’s going to be a practice that will continue. We’ll see what sort of changes or amendments can be done to it,” Kelly said Monday on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.”

Kelly called the policy an important tool “police officers have to have in their tool kit,” despite U.S. District Judge Shira Scheindlin’s ruling in August limited the policy’s use out of concern that it is being used as indirect form of racial profiling.

The ruling has since been put on hold, pending an appeal. Kelly said de Blasio would make the decision on whether the appeal would continue.

“I think it’s fair to say that a lot of things are unknown about the mayor-elect. So, we’ll find out,” Kelly said.

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