First lady Michelle Obama is “kind of a bad example” for the need for pay equality, President Obama joked Tuesday.

“I will say, the first lady’s kind of a bad example because the first lady doesn’t get paid. And she works pretty hard,” the president said at a roundtable discussion on manufacturing in Pittsburgh.

Looking to head off criticism, Obama was quick to note that “obviously, we’re ok.”

The quip came at the end of an extended discussion about how family-friendly policies were good for business. The White House has championed equal pay legislation that would provide additional protections for female workers, but the bill stalled in Congress earlier this year.

Obama said that before his presidential run, his wife made a point of emphasizing the importance of her family when interviewing for jobs.